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From: Pretty One onepretty91@yahoo.com
Subject: Breeders Book
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Breeders Big Book of Old Excuses
The Backyard Breeders' and Puppy Millers' Big Book of Old Excuses
Written by Denna Pace, ©2002
1. When called on bad breeding practices, ALWAYS claim that you are merely an innocent posting as a favor to a friend or family member.
2. Point out that everybody you know breeds this way, therefore it must be okay.
3. Claim that "snobby show breeders" are only criticizing you because they want to corner the market on puppy profit.
4. Claim that a Champion in the pedigree is just as good as 56 Champions in the pedigree. Not that it matters, because you doubt that there is such a thing as a dog with 56 champions in the pedigree.
5. Claim that you are just trying to produce good pets, therefore good pets are all you need for breeding.
6. When asked about health testing, enthusiastically point out that your bitch had a health checkup before breeding.
7. Be sure to mention that you do not need to run such health tests as OFA, CERF, thyroid, cardiac, patellae, etc., because your dogs look healthy and had no visible problems at their last vet checkup.
8. Point out that these tests cost too much and would cut into your profit margin. Be sure to champion the right of poor people to breed dogs.
9. Confidently assure worried rescuers that no puppy you produce, or any of their puppies or grand puppies or great-grandpuppies will end up in shelters because you have a bunch of friends who have told you that they'd like a pup from your bitch.
10. Point out that you don't need Championships or working titles on your dogs because you are breeding for temperament and your dog is really sweet.
11. Silence those annoying people who ask about your health guarantee by assuring them that buyers can return any sick puppies and you will replace it with another pup as long as it got sick within a certain amount of time of sale and as long as you don't think the buyer did something to make the puppy sick.
12. If your breed or line is rare (or you have a "rare" color, or believe your breed or color is rare), be sure to remind everyone that you do not need to show, temperament test, or health test your breeding stock because you are doing the world a service by continuing this "rare" breed/color/line.
13. No matter what anyone else says, claim that you obviously know what you are doing because you've been breeding for a long time. Point to the hundreds of puppies you've pumped out over the years as proof.
14. If this is your first attempt at breeding, make sure to remind everyone that you HAVE to breed your dog because how else are you going to learn how to breed?
15. Assure everyone that your dog does not need to be shown because you were assured by someone at Petsmart/the park/the vet's office/a friend that your dog is a perfect example of the breed.
16. Always remember that "rare" colors, oversized or undersized dogs, and mixes of popular breeds are great selling points. Anyone who doesn't think so is obviously not in tune with their customers' wishes..
17. Claim that your dogs are better because they are not inbred, as inbreeding obviously produces sick/stupid/deformed dogs. If breeding poo [as in "Cock-a-Poo," "Peek-a-Poo," etc.] dogs or other mutts, always point to "hybrid vigor" as proof of your dogs' superiority.
18. Remind everyone that you do not need a waiting list because your puppies are cute.
19. Assure everyone that your puppies will not end up in shelters because they are cute.
20. Claim that YOUR breed never ends up in shelters in your area, therefore your puppies will never end up in shelters.
21. If asked why you think your dogs are breeding quality, point out that they "have papers." Extra points awarded for using the phrase "AKC Certified." Double points if those papers come from the Continental Kennel Club.
22. If you sell a sick puppy, always blame the owners for making it sick. If the owners are clearly not responsible, blame their vet. (see #11)
23. If presented with irrefutable evidence proving you wrong on any excuses you have used, pretend your server did not receive the post/e-mail.
24. Claim that none of the rules of ethical breeding apply to you because you only intend to have one litter and therefore aren't a "real" breeder.
25. If all else fails, tell everyone who criticizes you to "get a life."
WARNING: Nightmare/Pretty One uses strong language and a racial slurr in the following:
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From: Pretty One onepretty91@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: What can Each of us Do ?
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you are so full of shit..........show me 1 just 1 instance of this drivel you are trying to push down everyones throat. How in the hell can you blame the A/R's for this?
I was in complete agreement with you until your last sentence..........then true to form, you start blaming the a/r's. Gads, get over it girl, the a/r's are here to stay and we will win in the end.
Just because YOU don't like something, you find a way to make it the a/r's fault. Why must you constantly throw the A/R card in the rink? You are acting just as bad as the niggers who constantly throw the black card. Grow the fuck up and do everyone a favor and shut the fuck up.
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I agree about the bad owners being the ones who try to make their animals into
little people. that is definitely bad and causes problems in so many ways.
I don't agree with the other theory people use when training dogs, by calling
themselves "members of the dog's pack" and acting like the "alpha dog" that's a
sort of reverse-anthropomor phism that causes just as much confusion and problems
as the other kind.
because after all, dogs are dogs and people are people, and even dogs can
determine which is a dog and which is not their own species.
I disagree with the idea there are no bad dogs. I don't mean "bad" in any moral
sense either. I mean there are just some animals that are simply not fit for
living in a home because they pee all over the place, chew stuff up, bark
endlessly, and no matter how anyone tries, the dog just misbehaves. That's no
reflection on the owner, particularly when that same owner and home has animals
that do behave and aren't causing a ton of problems. Too many aws are so busy
blaming the owners for absolutely everything that goes wrong with animals, and
sometimes it's just that particular animal isn't working out, even when the
person is doing everything right.
#17991 From: Indy
Date: Sun Dec 7, 2008 11:59 pm
Subject: Animal Activist's Book of Old Excuses down_with_peta
Your Night Mare" uracragslistjerk at yahoo.com is still making a big
nuissance of herself. She is now emailing as
"Pretty One" onepretty91 at yahoo.com
Instead of the stupid bullshit HSUS chain letter quoting Dimwitted Denna
Pace's 2002 "puppy miller" anti-breeder propaganda that One Pretty
Little Jerk of a Nightmare passed on, here's something else.
Animal Activist's Big Book of Old Lies
1. When called on obnoxious behavior, ALWAYS claim that you are saving
the animals.
2. Point out that you are the only one who cares for the animals so much.
3. Claim that people are only disagreeing with you because they don't
care about the animals and they just want to corner the market on animal
profit.
4. Claim that broiler chickens are as dear as Jews.
5. Claim that you are just trying to stop puppy mills.
6. When asked about animal testing, enthusiastically point out that it
is all agonizing torture and there's no reason for it unless all tests
on living things be done on brain damaged people.
7. Be sure to mention that no one needs to benefit from such tests.
8. Point out that these tests cost too much and the researchers are only
in it to make a proffit.
9. Confidently assure your fellow hysterical self-righteous
animal-panicked "rescuers" that you will never sleep good at night until
every last animal has been taken from the homes of the owners you and
they are persecuting.
10. Point out that you don't need proof that Toby Rabbit and bonsai
kitties are living in constant fear of their lives being taken, living
instates of abject cruel abuse and exploitation, you KNOW they are and
your life's mission is to save those poor kitties and bunnies!
11. Silence those annoying people who remind you that your favorite
animal rights group has killed more animals and hurt more people than it
could ever help.
12. If your attitude is particularly obnoxious and you happen to have
any information on people who have dared to tell you to shut your
tofu-hole, use it against them. Sign people's addresses up to stupid
dating sites, your favorite terrorist web sites, send everybody on your
hate-list incoherent rambles and stupid lame activist chain letters that
were debunked long ago.
13. No matter what anyone else says, claim that you obviously know what
you are doing because you've been reading and passing on sad animal
abuse stories for a very long time, you care so much and know that every
single tale you spread is true, unless it happens to be about your own
animals.
14. If this is your first attempt at activism, make sure to remind
everyone that you love the animals!
15. Assure everyone that you only have the animal's best interest at heart.
16. Always remember that people other than you and your like-minded
friends at PEta or HSUS and the animal "rescue" circuit, are
irresponsible slobs by default so wouldn't provide a good home for an
animal, especially if they don't promise you they will speuter.
17. Claim that your standards for animal care and ability at handling
difficult people are better because you are a "rescue"
18. Remind everyone that you do not need an ego-chattering wake-up call
from people telling you you're believing in a pile of outdated myths
that were debunked long ago.
19. Assure everyone that you really, like for really real, LOVE THE ANIMALS!
20. Claim that YOUR position of "Save the animals, abuse the people!" is
the most compassionate ever on Planet Earth!
21. If asked why you think you're so special, tell them all about your
imagined "rescues" and don't forget the tear-jerking animal abuse tales,
the sadder the better. Extra points if you make them cry. Double points
if you make yourself cry.
22. If you quote people you believe were for the animal activist cause,
you can assure yourself that everybody will stop what they're doing and
listen to you and do what you want. Extra points for taking something
from a religious text and twisting it to suit your idiology.
23. If presented with irrefutable evidence proving you wrong on any
excuses you have used, pretend your server did not receive the post/e-mail.
24. Claim that none of the rules of ethics apply to you because you only
care for the animals.
25. If all else fails, tell everyone who criticizes you to "get a life."
#17992 From: Wakanska
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2008 12:28 am
Subject: Re: dog_anti-rescue_anti-peta_new Animal Activist's Book of Old Excuses wakanska
Yeah, I got that. I blocked her.
Think about it.. The "91" part of the name... She's 17. Just like I figured. This is a stupid, immature kid. As soon as she sent me the malevolent email about my daughter being lucky to be dead or some shit like that, I knew she had to be a stupid, spoiled brat. Like I said.. Biggest Bedwetter!
#17995 From: Elizabeth Brinkley
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2008 12:33 am
Subject: Re: dog_anti-rescue_anti-peta_new Animal Activist's Book of Old Excuses etbmfa
Somebody did a psychological profile of the typical AR a few years back - can't remember who but they said the average was a single female, college educated, between the age of 21 and 45 with difficulty feeling empathy toward other humans, substituting animals for children and easily manipulated by others. If she graduated in "91 she would fit that profile.
Elizabeth
#17993 From: "Indy"
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2008 1:46 am
Subject: Re: dog_anti-rescue_anti-peta_new Animal Activist's Book of Old Excuses down_with_peta
Yes, lol!
Either that or the reference to 91 could be the age she signed up my account on match.com. I got an email from one of their spin-off sites yesterday, and that reminded me to actually go to match.com and see about deleting or at least changing what profile she had made on there for my email addy so she can't get back in and muck about with it some more.
I changed the username from the perverted one she put "SarahF*xHerDoggy" to "ABratSignedMeUp" and changed my age to something other than 91, she had my account as being born in 1919, the farthest back you can put a birth year on that site.
Pretty little Nightmare is also a lesbo because she put "I am a: woman Looking for: women"
Hah, she's mad because we keep rejecting her advances and her silly ar propaganda chain letters and pathetic whining.
You're right, she is a big spoiled brat bed wetter! Lol!
#17994 From: Wakanska
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2008 3:00 am
Subject: Re: dog_anti-rescue_anti-peta_new Animal Activist's Book of Old Excuses wakanska
Oh, I get it! She wants attention! She must be very lonely. Maybe she'll find a nice big hairy bulldike to talk dirty to her!
#17996 From: "Indy"
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2008 6:51 am
Subject: Re: dog_anti-rescue_anti-peta_new Animal Activist's Book of Old Excuses down_with_peta
Yeah, lol, eww.
#17998 From: "Carolyn"
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2008 8:16 am
Subject: Re: Animal Activist's Book of Old Excuses cgotte
I received this message also from:
"onepretty91@..."
Another address to put on my block list!!
Lucky Me!!
LOL
~Carolyn
#17999 From: "Indy"
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2008 10:23 am
Subject: Re: dog_anti-rescue_anti-peta_new Re: Animal Activist's Book of Old Excuses down_with_peta
Yes, I know Wakanska has noted that a lot of ars fit this profile too, and somewhere I have a write-up of a typical pound worker as well.
Carolyn, yes, lol, I've done likewise, One Pretty Annoying Little Joke And Jerk Of A Nightmare's second addy is blocked from my inbox as well.
#18009 From: Wakanska
Date: Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:06 am
Subject: Re: dog_anti-rescue_anti-peta_new The Pretty Little Brat's Tantrum You Didn't SeeWhat a wangst. wakanska
She's a nasty little racist bitch, too!
#18010 From: "petowner"
Date: Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:13 am
Subject: language petowner
I am of the opinion that the moment anyone uses foul language, they
loose all arguments and loose all credibility. Regardless of the
validity of the original point, all is lost with the use of the "F" word.
#18011 From: Wakanska
Date: Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:32 am
Subject: Re: dog_anti-rescue_anti-peta_new language wakanska
Well, that's your opinion. Lots of people around Los Angeles use it. It just depends on the people you are around at the time. The thing I see about people who use it is that they tend to use it a lot, and they have very small vocabularies. It's really sort of a catch-all adjective, which serves to show the current attitude of the speaker.
#18012 From: "petowner"
Date: Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:40 am
Subject: the "n" word petowner
The "n" word is something that should be avoided on this group. This
group is to have Christian values and the "n" word has taken on a very
hurtful meaning to innocent people, contrary to the intentions of this
group, so it should be avoided.
I must say that the "n" word has evolved considerably in the last few
years. When I read literature of a hundred years ago, I find that the
word was not meant as an insult. The book "Huckleberry Finn" had a
main character named "n" Jim. The name was not used as an insult and
the character called himself by the name. I find no literature of a
hundred years ago where the name was used as an insult.
The word "backyard breeder" similarly was not originally used as an
insult. It's when someone INTENDS for a word to be an insult, then it
becomes an insult.
#18013 From: "petowner"
Date: Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:45 am
Subject: Re: dog_anti-rescue_anti-peta_new language petowner
Yes, it's MY opinion. I would rather pull the plug on this group today
than see it degrade to such filth. There is still a considerable
portion of this country who find such "adjectives" to be offensive.
Some people find pornography to be acceptable. Some people find murder
to be acceptable. It's just a matter of where you draw the line.
#18014 From: "elusive375"
Date: Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:55 am
Subject: Re: the "n" word elusive
Any time a word is intended to insult of offend innocent people, the
word should be avoided.
#18015 From: "Carolyn"
Date: Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:56 am
Subject: Re: the "n" word cgotte
I don't feel you need to Only be a "Christian" to recognize the
Horrific Hatefulness & Vulgarity of the "N" word!!
Most if not All Faiths find the use of the word to be Vulgar & Very
Inappropriate!!! Not just Christians. I actually know of a few that
consider themselves to be Christians who use the Vulgar word & don't
bat an eyelash while saying it.
Go figure.
~Carolyn
#18016 From: "petowner"
Date: Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:02 pm
Subject: Re: the "n" word petowner
Certainly there are very fine people who are not Christians. But there
it is very unfortunate when people claim to be Christian and use
language that hurts people.
#18017 From: "Carolyn"
Date: Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:02 pm
Subject: Re: dog_anti-rescue_anti-peta_new The Pretty Little Brat's Tantrum You Didn't SeeWhat a wangst. cgotte
That is Really the most Pathetic bunch of Garbage!!
I wonder why that person felt the need to throw the racist remarks in
comments about ar's?!
Seems like a lack of intelligence & morals also.
~Carolyn
#18018 From: Wakanska
Date: Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:19 pm
Subject: Re: dog_anti-rescue_anti-peta_new the "n" word wakanska
From a legal standpoint, it's probably something similar to sexual harrassment. Sexual harrassment happens, by definition, when only one or both of two conditions exist. One is intent, and the other is perception. Even if a sexual innuendo is made in harmless fun, if the hearer interprets it as sexual harrassment, it's sexual harrassment.
#18019 From: Wakanska
Date: Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:22 pm
Subject: Re: dog_anti-rescue_anti-peta_new language wakanska
Well, bad taste it is, but nothing even close to the worst examples of pornography (which makes a very broad range, from tolerable to deplorable), and certainly nothing like murder. If you can't draw the line at a reasonable place, then anything could be called "cruelty", including depriving FiFi of a warmed water bed.
#18020 From: Wakanska
Date: Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:26 pm
Subject: Re: dog_anti-rescue_anti-peta_new Re: the "n" word wakanska
Too bad so many black people use it! I hear them frequently. I was out to dinner the night that McCain conceded to Obama, and one black man in the dining room yelled, "Now we got a NIGGER in the White House, and it's gonna be the BLACK house, now!"
Therefore, I see this 'n' word thing as a control issue, with a double standard.. They can say it, but we whites cannot. To me, that is a free speech thing. I don't choose to use it and I assume that neither do most blacks.. nor do they call each other "boy". But it really should be a matter of personal choice. Like use (especially overuse) of the F word, it really doesn't show a lot of class.
#18021 From: "petowner"
Date: Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:42 pm
Subject: Re: the "n" word race relations petowner222
There are a lot of double standards in race issues. We should not have
hiring based on the color of the skin, yet "affirmative action" says
we should hire less qualified people just because they are black.
Things like that hurts race relations. NAACP...What if we had a
NaaWP?
I think the fact that almost ALL black people voted
for Obama hurt race relations. What if WHITE people were that
faithful to other WHITE people. Their vote showed a loyalty based on
skin color. I really thought that racism was greatly on the decline
until Obama's preacher showed us otherwise.
#18022 From: bcfemale
Date: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:44 am
Subject: Re: dog_anti-rescue_anti-peta_new Re: the "n" word bcfemale
I will explain this as well as I'm able
the word NIGGER is not really used by the blacks you have to have your ears open
they say terms such as My NIGGA or NIGGAH big difference between the 2 words . My cosen ( age 21) and my ex(age24) are black and I asked them because I was sick of hearing either word used .And I just had to know .Now when I was a kid the term Colored was what was used. I still perfer people of color.
E Bionics is so much fun
#18023 From: Elizabeth Brinkley
Date: Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:20 pm
Subject: Re: dog_anti-rescue_anti-peta_new The Pretty Little Brat's Tantrum You Didn't SeeWhat a wangst. etbmfa
Finally remembered where I saw the profile on the AR mental health problems ( of which this poor thing's email below is a clear indicator). The book "Animal Scam, The Beastly Abuse of Human Rights" by Kathleen Marquardt. Its out of print now but Amazon. com usually has some copies floating around.
Elizabeth
(Requoted Nightmare/Pretty One's email deleted.)
#18024 From: Elizabeth Brinkley
Date: Wed Dec 10, 2008 3:31 pm
Subject: Re: dog_anti-rescue_anti-peta_new language etbmfa
My argument against this stupid word is very simple - Shakespeare used more than 17,000 words in his work. He invented 3000 words. And NOT ONCE did he use the "F" word.
Elizabeth
#18041 From: Wakanska
Date: Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:42 am
Subject: Re: dog_anti-rescue_anti-peta_new Re: the "n" word race relations wakanska
Well, people are always going to be prone to strife at one time or another. Race is just a convenient excuse. For politicians, it's a way to get a group going.. Get all the people who are malcontents or who want something, and pit them against another group, based on some sort of grievance.
I'm afraid that this is the way it's always been, and the way it always will be. The faces change and so do the circumstances and time, but it's always the same.
I actually have known a lot of black people well enough to ask them some pretty blunt questions, and have been delighted when they were honest with me.
#18042 From: Wakanska
Date: Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:46 am
Subject: Re: dog_anti-rescue_anti-peta_new Re: the "n" word wakanska
Well, thanks for the clarification. I don't think I'd get away with using either one of those. LOL. But it really is good that you asked, because that really kind of gets the communication and understanding going on.
I used to love to ask my black friends questions about being black or how they saw things from their viewpoint. Once I asked one girl why it was that no black people were ever abducted by aliens. She laughed! And do you know, she looked into it. She said that there was one case of it that she found! I think I did hear of a mixed race couple who were abducted by (outer space) aliens. LOL.. Mostly it seems it's just snaggle-toothed rednecks and trailer trash (Those pesky aliens like to borrow cows, too..and drop them off, missing a few parts!)
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