From: "Groups Notification"

To: list-owner

Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 5:37 AM

Subject: APPROVE -- the_succubus_freed purrrsephone@gmail.com wants to join

 

Hello,

 

The following person would like to join the group:

Email address: the_succubus_freed purrrsephone@gmail.com

 

Comment from user:

I'm an ENFP who is both proud of her type and interested in learning

more about psychology and type theory.

 

From: Stephanie Schoepple purrrsephone@gmail.com

To: list-owner

Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 7:27 AM

 

*1. What is your Myers-Briggs type?

*ENFP!

**

*2. How did you find out about Myers-Briggs typing?

*When I was a teenager, my (former) therapist tested me with the MBTI, and

sure enough, ENFP I was. After going over my results, I was curious

about it

and requested more literature, read up, and now I have a pretty decent

grasp

on type theory and a couple of interesting books in my library.

 

*3. Do you like chocolate? If so, what kind?

*Milk chocolate, Belgian chocolate, white chocolate, hot chocolate,

chocolate

syrup, chocolate bunnies, all the edible kinds, really. Are there honestly

people who don't like chocolate? Have they sought help for this?

 

*4. How many books are you currently reading at once and do you ever finish

any of them?

*

Ahh, see, I know myself well enough that I just get short story or

poetry collections or magazines now, unless a particular book, novel,

graphic novel, or other longer piece of work commands my attention that

much. If that's the case, it's one at a time. More often than not, it's

projects, not books, that have me multitasking out the wazoo and wind up

dividing my attention and falling by the wayside once I've lost interest

and

spent my initial burst of creativity on them.

From: "list mod 1"

To: "list Moderator address"

Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 5:10 AM

Subject: Re: File - list - Please reply to join the list

 

I'm not sure whether we talked about this one. I would say to not sub

her because she sounds too arrogant "Are there honestly people who don't

like chocolate? Have they sought help for this?" and the answer to

question 4 sounds contrived.

 

Sounds like yet another **** trying to pass off as ENFP.

 

I'm rejecting her.

 

From: Stephanie Schoepple purrrsephone@gmail.com

To: list Moderator address

Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 11:16 PM

Subject: Re: File - Note to Pending Members

 

Hi,

I applied to join the group this past week, and I received an email today stating that I was denied admittance and that it was a final decision, meaning I had no chance of applying and being approved again. I'm writing to you now because I'd like to know why my request to join was denied. I replied back in a timely fashion, filled out the questionairre completely, and it was free of both sexual content and degrading comments. If you still have my application and answers, or if you remember them at all, would you mind explaining to me what it is that caused you to deny me admittance to the group? My Yahoo! ID is the_succubus_freed and my email address is the same as the one I'm sending this from, purrrsephone@gmail.com, so if you choose to honor my request you know how to get in touch with me.

Thank you in advance.

Stephanie Schoepple

From: list mod 2

To: Stephanie Schoepple purrrsephone@gmail.com

Cc: list Moderator address

Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 1:37 AM

Subject: Re: File - Note to Pending Members

 

Hi,

 

Yahoo's wording in their denial notes is erronious. The "final decision" part only means that the decision was up to the moderator/owner and pending members who get denied can't report complaining to yahoo about being dropped from a list. It doesn't mean you can't re-apply. You were only denied a membership, not banned, so you can re-apply.

 

The problem with your answers was they were just a bit overboard with the explanations, and the part about people not liking chocolate and if they were getting help for that wasn't necessary.

 

From: Stephanie Schoepple purrrsephone@gmail.com

To: list mod 2

Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 4:13 PM

Subject: Re: File - Note to Pending Members

 

There was nothing in the rules for responding that said I couldn't give a long response. If you personally don't like reading the responses from people who like to ellaborate and give a lot of information, I shouldn't be penalized and denied admission because you got sick of reading my answers, and just didn't feel like finishing them. As for the chocolate comment, it was merely a joke, based on the common stereotype of people who prefer chocolate tenaciously clinging to the belief that it's the best thing in the world. I don't honestly hate, think ill of, or hold any kind of a grudge towards people with a different preference, I was just kidding.

 

The more I correspond with you, though, the more I doubt that this group is one I actually want to join. By definition, I am a person who enjoys expressing myself and my opinion, and seeking to give as much information about myself as is necessary for people to get to know and connect with me. Even before I'm given access to the group to do that, I'm being told that I can't. In hindsight, maybe I shouldn't have applied to join this group. I don't think I'd do well networking in a place where a sense of humour is not tolerated and people are shunned if they don't answer a question with a simple, ambiguous, one-word answer. I apologize for ever having wasted my time, as well as yours.

 

Stephanie Schoepple

 

From: list mod 2

To: Stephanie Schoepple purrrsephone@gmail.com

Cc: list Moderator address

Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 7:51 PM

Subject: Re: File - Note to Pending Members

 

There have been a few others who applied under a pretense and/or with similar and/or very flippant answers who also got very hissy when their membership was denied, and some of them thought they were being very witty and cute.

 

I'm not going to go into all the specifics of why your application was rejected, except that it has nothing to do with us not having a sense of humor, and cracks like that definitely won't get you in. Normally it isn't a good idea to try joking in a membership submittal unless you put j/k or :) *Grin* :P something to indicate your intention - unless you know the list owner or a moderator personally, and well enough to kid around with them; because while one list mod might take it as a joke without a disclaimer, the next one might not, and the net doesn't show you laughing and grinning on the other end of the modem for all to see.

 

If this is your first denial, don't take it personally. It happens to everybody on the net sooner or later.

 

There are several mods on this list and some have had to deal with people that made the list management difficult - I'm not at liberty to explain how, but once burned, twice shy.

From: "list mod 1"

To: "list mod 2"

Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 9:08 PM

Subject: Re: File - Note to Pending Members

 

I knew Stephanie had serious issues. Good riddance to her! We don't

need her on our list. Too arrogant and self-righteous, obviously

has some pretty severe self-esteem issues. Only people with low

self-esteem get all arrogant like that. Poor girl. I hope she finds

some help. Big baby. :)

 

From: "list mod 2"

To: "list mod 1"

Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 12:12 AM

Subject: Re: File - Note to Pending Members

 

Lol I agree with you. What a tantrum she pitched! Well, she did write and

ask why she was rejected, she should've been able to take it, or else had

the sense not to write and simply move on. Either she's got serious esteem

problems or is very young and a net newbie. I can remember pitching the odd

fit at being banned from irc chat channels that banned a whole domain

because of a few jerks. I would've probably been okay if it had simply

explained the domain was blocked, but the message said "Banned, dorks!" I

was offended, this being the first time I tried to get into a channel

recommended by a cousin, and hadn't even done anything to deserve getting

slammed with the "dork" lable. They did let me in with apologies.

 

That was over a decade ago. Now if I run into that, I just figure it's their

loss and find somewhere else to chat.

 

But I don't think there was any excuse for Stephanie's tirade, especially

using the "You must not have a sense of humor" bit. If I had a penny for

every time I've seen trolls/flamers use the "It was a joke, don't you

understand humor?" excuse every time they got in hot water for misbehaving,

I'd be richer than Bill Gates. People like Stephanie, can be very vindictive

and ugly when things don't go their way, and she strikes me as the sort who

would raise a stink over her messages not coming through quickly enough. And

goodness knows what would happen if she got in, and posted something that

was rejected. I'm sure it would've eventually been something else with her

later on if we did let her in. Her response was nothing less than bratty.

 

From: "Groups Notification"

To: list-owner@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 11:11 AM

Subject: APPROVE -- mycle2000 mycle2000@yahoo.com wants to join

 

Hello,

 

The following person would like to join the group:

Email address: mycle2000 mycle2000@yahoo.com

 

Comment from user:

hi, i am Mycle, a composer,musician(p/dr), painter,inventor, author

completely involved (or lost:-)) in creativity and consciousness and

celebrating life.

 

----- Original Message -----

From: "michael heupel" mycle2000@yahoo.com

To: "list Moderator"

Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 12:25 PM

Subject: Re: File - list - Please reply to join the list

 

well, the answer to question 1 is: yes!

up with: yes, of course!

answer than at least one,two or all of the previous.

after rather careful consideration, an ounce of in

spite of its purpose great coaching, i do want to

submit a resonant: YES!!

 

 

Mycle Heupel

mycle2000@yahoo.com

 

From: "list mod 2"

To: "michael heupel" mycle2000@yahoo.com

Cc: "list Moderator address"

Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 12:57 PM

Subject: Re: File - list - Please reply to join the list

 

Your MB personality type is "Yes"?

 

You found out about us by "Yes"?

 

You'll have to do a lot better than that for answers. This doesn't cut it.

Ciao...

 

From: "michael heupel" mycle2000@yahoo.com

To: "list mod 2"

Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 1:28 PM

Subject: Re: File - list - Please reply to join the list

 

sorry but neither did your questions . . .

they prompted the answers . .

 

 

Mycle Heupel

mycle2000@yahoo.com

From: "list mod 2"

To: "michael heupel" mycle2000@yahoo.com

Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 1:50 PM

Subject: Re: File - list - Please reply to join the list

 

Well, too bad so sad for you - most people have it together enough to know

how to answer. Bye-bye...

 

From: "Groups Notification"

To: list-owner

Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 5:38 AM

Subject: APPROVE -- vickyinturkey vickyinturkey@yahoo.com wants to join

 

Hello,

 

The following person would like to join the group:

Email address: vickyinturkey vickyinturkey@yahoo.com

 

Comment from user:

I am a flaming ENFP and so excited to finally find myself validated and

rejoice in who I am! I want to meet others as nutty as myself and revel

in

the wordplay.

going stir-crazy.

From: Chris McKeen vickyinturkey@yahoo.com

To: list Moderator

Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 6:01 AM

Subject: Re: File - list - Please reply to join the list

 

Hello, Hello out there!

 

A friend, SIL (exasperated probably) told me about Briggs-Myers, or is it Myers-Briggs? No matter. As a newly minted ENFP surrounded by ISTJs I feel so incredibly validated and cannot wait to meet others with my world view. Where have we all been hiding? Too long I have tried to fit into other's molds and it is way past time to punch out these wings and soar.

 

How long would you like me to write? Of course I am passionate for chocolate: the darklater the better . . . I am all about passions . . . full force and 150% until I overdose, and drop one for another - (no, I am NOT talking about the taboo s-word). Now my passion is for travel: I'm just home from a cameling/bicycling/trekking trip to India and Nepal and feeling so bored with life- as-usual. Actually major life changes are in the works that I wouldn't probably mention to someone that I had just met. For that reason, I'm finding it very hard to focus on books at present though I have about three going, and yes, every so often I finish one.

 

So thank you for considering my membership in your elite group. I'm so excited that I can hardly stand it!

 

Chris

 

--

 

From: list mod 2

To: list moderator address

 

There was so much wrong with this application that it is hard to know where to start.

 

"Flaming ENFP" ?

 

It's a personality type according to Myers Briggs, not a barbicue sauce.

 

"Rejoice in who I am!"

 

Why? What's to "rejoice" about, as if being an ENFP is somehow more fortunate and better than being some other personality type?

 

"meet others as nutty as myself"

 

Call yourself nutty if you like, but assume that everybody who scores as ENFP on some test means they're automatically nutty? I don't think so.

 

"revel in the wordplay."

 

What wordplay? The list isn't a verbocity contest or a place to try messing with people's heads and starting silly debates on how things are or should be said.

 

"going stir-crazy."

 

If this was his/her attempt at being ENFP enough and cutesy enough to get in, it failed to impress.

 

"Briggs-Myers, or is it Myers-Briggs? No matter."

 

If you're so interested in MBTI you should know enough not to reverse the order and this doesn't make you look ENFP or cute.

 

As "a newly minted ENFP"

 

'minted' ? You're not a cool drink, a piece of candy, or some type of money.

 

"surrounded by ISTJs"

 

And you're so sure of this, how?

 

"I feel so incredibly validated"

 

Why? Just because you found an ENFP list? You don't know me, I don't know you. How can you feel so incredibly validated simply by stumbling on some internet list you're not even a member of?

 

"and cannot wait to meet others with my world view."

 

Then you're mistaken. Everybody's got a different world view and it isn't even dependent on their assigned personality type. This means while there are a lot of ENFPs on the list, they're not all going to agree with you on politics, religion, music, types of food, what's fun and what's not etc. All you might have as a starting common ground is a score on some test and that hardly qualifies as something to depend so heavily on when looking for "validation"

 

"Where have we all been hiding? Too long I have tried to fit into other's molds and it is way past time to punch out these wings and soar."

 

Sorry, if you were trying to sound cool, you didn't. Never have I heard of the expression "punch out these wings" did it hurt much? "Spread these wings and soar" is very cliche, so you took an old cliche, tried to turn it into something you thought might be original, inspiring and witty sounding, like your "minted ENFP" above, and it just sounds incredibly contrived and corny.

 

"How long would you like me to write?"

 

As long as you want to, that's up to you.

 

"Of course I am passionate for chocolate: the darklater the better . . ."

 

'Passionate for chocolate' ? Don't exaggerate, get a grip on yourself, it's only chocolate.

 

"I am all about passions . . . full force and 150% until I overdose, and drop one for another - (no, I am NOT talking about the taboo s-word). Now my passion is for travel: I'm just home from a cameling/bicycling/trekking trip to India and Nepal and feeling so bored with life- as-usual. Actually major life changes are in the works that I wouldn't probably mention to someone that I had just met. For that reason, I'm finding it very hard to focus on books at present though I have about three going, and yes, every so often I finish one."

 

Yikes, phew, and where are you going to find the time to be on this list?

 

"So thank you for considering my membership in your elite group. I'm so excited that I can hardly stand it!"

 

'elite group' If you're looking for elitism, you've definitely come to the wrong place. "so excited" that you 'can hardly stand it' Is this for real!?

 

Membership denied.

 

Jody is a perfect example of an internet troll. She is egocentric, extremely immature, insanely angry when she doesn't get her own way, and sees nothing wrong with breaking list rules, mouthing off list mods, and trying to make a nuisance of herself.

 

One of the rules on the MBTI list does not allow the putting down of anyone else because of personality type and their score on an MBTI test.

 

There are other boards that do love to promote their own personality type as the best while bashing the others, or joking about their own preferred personality type in a negative way.

 

Jody and her supposed boyfriend tried to get on the list and their bashing of the enfp personality type was incredibly offensive, as was their portrayal even of a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship.

 

I don't believe in personality-typing, don't know what my MBTI personality type is and don't think I can be pinned down into one exclusive type. But, I'm happy to help out a friend who I made through volunteering to help her to run this list.

 

But obviously there are enfps on this list, including one of the owner/moderators, and she feels rightly offended when enfps get bashed. I agree with her. There's no excuse for trollish, bratty, bullying behavior.

 

We've had members try to get on the list for the purpose of entertaining themselves at our expense, and some that submitted applications that were so spazzy as if they were really trying hard to be "enfp" enough to be accepted. In the list guidelines, it states that all personality types are accepted. But people still have to be decent and not submit membership applications that are contrived, patronizing, condescending or any other hogwash.

 

Jody's initial application didn't sound any warning bells for me, but when Yodyodyod applied, his comments were offensive out the wazoo! When I let him have it and rejected his membership, Jody jumped to his defense, and through subsequent emails, she outdid herself in proving to be a very nasty, twisted, spoiled brat, and an all too typical bullying, power-tripping troll/flamer.

 

From: "Groups Notification"

To: list-owner

Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 1:09 PM

Subject: APPROVE -- dragonpetite dragonpetite@yahoo.com wants to join

 

Hello,

 

The following person would like to join the group:

Email address: dragonpetite dragonpetite@yahoo.com

 

Comment from user:

I'm an eNFp. I've wanted to find an online group that actually

_understands_ me. And who better than other eNFps??

 

From: Little Dragon dragonpetite@yahoo.com

To: list Moderator

Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 8:10 AM

Subject: Re: File - list - Please reply to join the list

 

Hello again!

 

Here are my answers:

 

What is your Myers-Briggs type?

eNFp

How did you find out about Myers-Briggs typing?

Mandatory test at work, then through various sources on the internet

Do you like chocolate? If so, what kind?

I love chocolate. I especially like the high quality slightly-bitter 56-60% bars, like Valrhona.

How many books are you currently reading at once and do you ever finish any of them?

Reading 3 books, and I always finish them!

 

Thanks :)

 

~ Jody

 

From: "Groups Notification"

To: list-owner

Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 8:13 PM

Subject: APPROVE -- yodyodyod yodyodyod@yahoo.com wants to join

 

Hello,

 

The following person would like to join the group:

Email address: yodyodyod yodyodyod@yahoo.com

 

Comment from user:

hi! I need info on the care and feeding of my ENFP girlfriend :)

 

From: "Yod Sawamiphakdi" yodyodyod@yahoo.com

To: "list Moderator"

Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:16 AM

Subject: Re: File - list - Please reply to join the list

 

What is your Myers-Briggs type? ENTJ! Can you tell that my ENFP girlfriend is slowly going crazy...

 

How did you find out about Myers-Briggs typing? I've known about it for a long time but never really paid attention. Then one day my girlfriend sent me some results and I took the test and then... it was pretty obvious why we argue all the time!

 

Do you like chocolate? If so, what kind? NO! I don't like foods that coat your mouth.

 

How many books are you currently reading at once

and do you ever finish any of them? 0, and no, I read like 120 blog feeds a day (no joke)... I don't have time for anything that requires manual page turning!

 

From: "list mod 2"

To: "Yod Sawamiphakdi" yodyodyod@yahoo.com

Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:50 AM

Subject: Re: File - list - Please reply to join the list

 

Damn but you're slow! You were rejected last night, and banned today!

 

"hi! I need info on the care and feeding of my ENFP girlfriend :)"

 

I've seen some hair-brained membership applications but this has got to be

one of the stupidest.

 

"Can you tell that my ENFP girlfriend is slowly going crazy..."

 

I can tell that *you* are crazy for thinking you'd get accepted here after

your idiotic enfp-slamming crap. Buh-bye, jerk.

From: Jody dragonpetite@yahoo.com

To: list-owner

Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:30 PM

Subject: Very sad panda :(

 

Hi moderators.

 

I'm new to this list and, even after just a few posts, I really feel like home. I asked my b/f to apply to the list so he could read up on enfp types and to show him that I wasn't crazy (he's entj, so we have a lot of misunderstandings). He was just going to apply with "hi", but I said - nah! Make it cute, say "I want to learn more about the care and feeding of my enfp girlfriend". Hey, I thought you guys had a sense of humor. I guess I was wrong.

 

Today, he checked his email, and he was denied membership, written an EXTREMELY rude message, and then banned. I'm floored. I'm trying to give y'all the benefit of the doubt here, but I'm seriously ashamed of the way you treated him. That was not only uncalled for, it was completely against the rules and reason for the group, as I understand it, in the first place. Fine, so you get the last word, but don't you think you went off a little half-cocked here?

 

Anyway, I'm seriously reconsidering my membership. I finally find people who actually understand me, and a place and group where I feel like home, and this whole experience has left a disgusting taste in my mouth. I'm very disappointed in you mods. Seriously disappointed. And ashamed of you. Here I was waxing poetic about this list, and I went from elation to utter disgust in the time it took you to write and send a highly scurrilous email.

 

You make me sad to be associated with you.

 

From: list mod 2

To: Jody dragonpetite@yahoo.com

Cc: list Moderator

Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 10:04 PM

Subject: Re: Very sad panda :(

 

It's really bad form to make that kind of a "joke" when applying for a list membership. And don't give me this "I thought you had a sense of humor" snivel, I've seen that tired old whine from far too many flamers and trolls on the net when their so-called "humor" wasn't appreciated.

 

I thought this guy's application was extremely insulting to his gf, but if that would be you, and you actually came up with the idea, I guess there's no accounting for taste. And yes, there have been a few crackpots trying to get membership in order to make fun of enfps, including a guy that came from an intj list for the express purpose of making jokes about enfps and forwarding posts to the intj list at our expense; so when trying to get on a list, you have to remember that we're strangers to you, and we're not going to let you into our house if you do something way over the top and make a bad impression. And that's what happened here with your bf, who we didn't know was your bf when he made those "jokes".

 

Usually the ha-ha's come later on once you're a well established member and feel at home with us and we feel at home with you enough to joke around. But this didn't come across as cute or funny, and we weren't let in on your little inside joke before the membership application was submitted. If you want to "reconsider" your membership because you're offended that you and your bf's idea bombed, no problem, I'll remove you. Better luck

next time

 

Yes, if you're reconsidering your membership because you hadn't the consideration to warn us beforehand that you were going to get your bf to apply with something so nutty, you and he have yourselves to blame for botching it.

 

Next time maybe you'll think things through a little more carefully before trying to send attempts at "cuteness" that simply don't get understood over the net. We can't see you and your bf chuckling it up on the other end of the modem and had no idea he was even connected with you when you guys hatched this cute little scheme. Downing a personality type is against the rules here and whether you meant to or not, that's what you did. The "humor/joke" excuse won't cut it and neither will accusations that we "don't have a sense of humor" in fact, that's a completely predictable response. I figured he would be the one to fire back with that excuse, but the rather interesting twist was that it was you.

 

So long...

From: list mod 2

To: list Moderator address

Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 10:31 PM

Subject: Jody Gone

 

I removed her after her huge whine, and you saw my explanation. I found his application concerning the "care and feeding of his enfp gf" and the other stuff to be one of the most demeaning, offensive things to have been said about the enfp personality. And they were extremely rude not to let us know about their connection and idea of a "cute" joke in their application beforehand. Because I was so offended by it, I really let him have it with both barrels and banned his address. Yes, it obviously was a misunderstanding, and I apologize to you for that if I stepped out of line. I also realize that mean sounding cracks about enfps can really hurt you, and if ever a comment appeared to be belittling, that was definitely it.

 

They should have had the consideration to let us in on it.

 

And I don't take kindly to the "It was a joke" excuse, which is always followed by some whine that goes "I thought you would have a sense of humor, but I guess not." That does absolutely nothing to get the offender back in my good books, if anything, it just gets them in deeper.

 

If she wants back in, she can always resubscribe, and I can unban her bf's address. From his application and now her hissy-fit, it looks as if they could really attempt to play the list if they were allowed to run wild, and they'd probably get really upset if some of their messages didn't go through. She reminds me of this Stephanie somebody who threw a tantrum a few months ago when her membership was rejected. Very immature.

 

But it just amazes me what some people on the net expect total strangers to immediately "understand" and put up with from them.

 

From: Jody dragonpetite@yahoo.com

To: list mod 2

Cc: list-owner

Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 1:25 PM

Subject: Re: Very sad panda :(

 

Actually, I re-read it and the sad fact of the matter is that your reading comprehension is in serious need of help. It is pretty sad that you have a policy of "insult first, ask questions later." There was NOTHING insulting in his message. He said that he was looking for help in understanding me and that he was driving me crazy because he didn't understand. YOU took it as a slam on the personality type. YOU took it as though he was being rude. That is really pathetic.

 

Now I know that certain stereotypes of the enfp type show a lot of emotion and not much logic, and as the ambassador and the first point of contact with this list, you need some serious help with your netiquette if you want to dispel that notion because you just fed that stereotype a porterhouse steak. Just because you can't see us smiling, you assume that the intent is nefarious, rather than giving the benefit of the doubt. Go re-read his app and you'll see. The idiot graphic was a cute touch and only shows how ludicrous you really are. News flash: the world doesn't walk on eggshells because you felt embarrassed someone abused your trust. Waaah, an intj jerk cross-posted. Do you really care what they think? I sure don't. I feel sorry for them for needing to do that to make themselves feel better. I wouldn't funnel that into abusing the next intj I met, though. Don't you think you're carrying that hurt just a bit too far?

 

Let me refresh your memory about what this list means: (btw, it is Extroverted, not Extraverted)

The fun, original (Dec 93) ENFP list for all you wonderful ENFPs and those who love them! :) This list is dedicated to ENFPs, people who score Extroverted, iNtuitive, Feeling, and Perceiving on the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator, although all types are welcome here. :)

So this list is FUN and a place for enfps and their significant others. Obviously you should practice what you preach. I'm not right for a hypocritical list filled with hurt mods that feel the need to wield their power in such a manner as you have done. Good-bye ..and good riddance!

 

~ Jody

From: "list mod 2"

To: Jody dragonpetite@yahoo.com

Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 2:18 PM

Subject: Re: Very sad panda :(

 

 

You have just got yourself banned. I will not accept members who act so abusive and childish and am out of patience for any more of your silly tantrums. Any further emails from you that even hint at being insulting toward the list, the mods, anything else, or that use sarcasm and false praise in order to guilt-trip, or any other tricks at emotional battery and bullying in order to try getting back at me or getting back on the list will be treated like the garbage it is.

 

Good bye!

From: list mod 2

To: list Moderator address

Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 2:32 PM

Subject: Jody Banned for Abusive Behavior

 

I'm banning Jody for her ridiculous tantrum, lipping off a mod, insulting enfps and trying to make excuses for it when it's clearly stated in the rules that putting people down because of MBTI score is not allowed, and dressing it up as "humor" doesn't cut it.

 

We definitely don't need this sort of childish person on our list.

 

From: Jody dragonpetite@yahoo.com

To: list mod 2

Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 5:40 PM

Subject: Re: Very sad panda :(

 

Dear moderator,

 

I'm sorry, but do you really think I *care* about what YOU think - especially now? Or that I'd want back on your list after seeing how you, the mod, actually treat people? There was no putting down of enfps as a group ANYWHERE in any of my or my boyfriend's messages at all. You've imagined it all. Now, there have been personal categorizations of YOU, and you alone. Take a good look in the mirror, sweetheart. Because, from where I'm sitting, I see a sad little person in a tiny bubble world - that is about to *pop*. I blew what, pray tell? I don't want on your list! I'm already OFF of it! You ban me - like I care. And, dear hypocrite, don't preach at me to "take responsibility" for MY actions when YOU fail to do so for YOURS. I gave you false praise? Ha. I praised NOTHING about you, nor will I, ever.

 

Let me recap the facts for you:

 

You accepted me to the list, and I said "woah, cool place, my b/f needs to join here so you understand me"

My b/f submits an application that is in no way shape or form derogatory to anyone - me, enfps in general, or anything

You FLIP OUT, insult him, call him a troll, then ban him

You insult my taste, and insult the very principles that you seem to hold so dear. Take an app about books and chocolate seriously? Try having a serious questionnaire then! But no, you jump in the deep end of illogicalness with both feet, proving that you are nothing but an overly-judgmental and hurt emotional child who cares more about insulting potential list members than bringing the enfp community together. Guess what? There are other lists out there. There are other places for enfps to gather that are infinitely better than yours - for the sole reason that YOU are not there. I feel sorry for your list members, though. I wonder if they know what sort of mod they have.

I laugh and laugh and laugh at you because you have just proven that you're on some sort of power trip and can't take your head out of your butt long enough to realize that the brown stuff there isn't chocolate. I seriously doubt that you're a real enfp, and if you are, you insult enfps everywhere with your actions. We're supposed to be fun, zany people - not insane, psychotic children like you!

 

If you thought I was going to apologize for my righteous indignation at the insults you've hurled completely unprovoked, you've got another thing coming. So, so long, and thanks for the "fun" list.

 

From: list mod 2

To: Jody dragonpetite@yahoo.com

Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 6:37 PM

Subject: Re: Very sad panda :(

 

Well, at least now you were honest enough to admit to being rude enough not to give a damn what I think. But I already figured that out when you sent me your first sulky rant last night in defense of your poor taste in "humor". Thanks for reaffirming my decision to ban you. I need not even look at the rest of your tirade. Face it, you screwed up, and you keep continuing to screw up with every tacky email. You don't have to convince me any more that your attitude stinks, you've made that really, really clear by now I'm not sorry for you, never will be, and have better things to spend time on. In other words, you're not welcome to send me any more emails.

 

Good-bye, it was a displeasure emailing with you, take your crappy attitude out of my inbox and go to alt.flamers or some such group that might sympathize with you.

 

*doorslam*

 

From: list mod 2

To: list Moderator address

Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 6:51 PM

Subject: More Jody, Hopefully The Last Of Her

 

She just keeps getting more and more babyish with every email, only this time she actually admitted to not caring what I think, which also means if it had been you who objected to her demeaning idea of a joke, she wouldn't care what you think either. She just doesn't get it that the decent thing would've been to notify us ahead of time, or at the very least, send an apology for the offending "joke" and asked for her bf to be reconsidered. Instead, she went ballistic and is still doing so, what a case.

 

But unless she tries anything like whining to the list-owner address again, anything more she sends privately to me alone I won't send to you, I'll just file it with the rest of her junk in the "idiot files" Jody has completely and irreparably burned her bridges here.

 

From: "list mod 1"

To: "list mod 2"

Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 11:35 PM

Subject: Re: Fw: APPROVE -- yodyodyod wants to join

 

My thoughts exactly, as if she were a pet? EEEK!

 

From: "list mod 2"

To: "list mod 1"

Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 12:13 AM

Subject: Re: Fw: APPROVE -- yodyodyod wants to join

 

Hi!

 

No kidding! Of any negative comments I've ever seen about enfps, this was

the most degrading, demeaning, offensive thing yet. As if his gf was

incapable of feeding and caring for herself and slowly going crazy because

she's an enfp. That was so offensive that I hit him with a really blistered

reply and rejection. I'd object like heck if some guy talked about me that

way, but the seriously twisted thing was that it was apparently her idea.

Double eek! This is just - ugh. And her tantrum was even worse than

Stephanie Schoeple's a few months ago.

 

From: "list mod 1"

To: "list mod 2"

Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 11:44 PM

Subject: Re: Jody Gone

 

Good call, my first response when I read her message was let's boot her.

even going to read that, don't need that kind of self-righteous crap in

my brain. Good riddance to her. I would not let her back on the list.

 

From: "list mod 2"

To: "list mod 1"

Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 12:20 AM

Subject: Re: Jody Gone

 

Thanks!

 

and you're absolutely right! You know, I barely skimmed any further emails

she sent me. The last one I only looked at the first sentense, obviously

she's so self-enamoured that she really can't see she's done anything wrong.

 

Thanks for your support on this and backing my decision. How in the world

she and her bf thought they could actually get away with this nastiness and

be accepted here is beyond me. Well, they can take their weird love-biting

somewhere else. Pity the next list that gets them!

 

From: "list mod 1"

To: "list mod 2"

Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 11:46 PM

Subject: Re: Jody Gone

 

I think we should ban her too. I started to read her response back,

very immature. I think they are both trolls, pretending to be something

they aren't, and wanting to play mind games with us. I remember feeling

hesitant about her application, something in my gut said something

wasn't quite right, but I couldn't quite put my finger on it. I'm glad

she showed her true colors sooner than later, we don't need her kind here.

 

From: "list mod 2"

To: "list mod 1"

Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 12:25 AM

Subject: Re: Jody Gone

 

Bingo! I agree completely with your theory about them in this email. And

they, or she, actually, responded exactly in troll fashion, too. It really

bugged her that I pointed this out. And for all her whining about me being

"derogatory" uh, she and her bf seem to forget they were derogatory first,

and gave me every reason to react as strongly as I did.

 

Wow, I'll have to look at her application again. I've forgotten what she

said. But it's in my "pending" folder still, along with the past

applications from members since I came on the list. Interesting! Your gut

was more right than either of us realized. Gah, she really ticked me off.

 

From: "list mod 1"

To: "list mod 2"

Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 11:49 PM

Subject: Re: Jody Banned for Abusive Behavior

 

Haha, that's funny, I just sent off an email to you with the same idea,

and then read your message that you already banned her. I don't think

she was an ENFP. I think it was a game. Only trolls respond the way

she did. Yikes!

 

I just read your email below to her, excellent reply! I wish I was that

good at responding to brats like that.

 

From: "list mod 2"

To: "list mod 1"

Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 12:37 AM

Subject: Re: Jody Banned for Abusive Behavior

 

Hehe! Thanks! Lol, glad we're on the same paragraph of the same page about

this brat! Lol! And you're right on the money, I'm sure they were attempting

to head-game us, probably planning to get on the list and try to disrupt it.

 

Thanks again for the compliment! Hehe - so many brats get away with way too

much, especially on the internet, and it's good to put them out the door

quickly. These creeps sure indicated potential big trouble if allowed to run

amok. And with me, if someone does something like this, which would offend

most people with some common sense, I get upset, the best thing for them to

do is apologize and explain themselves without even a hint at insulting me.

Jody blew it on a monumental scale. She's obviously a troll and a bully, and

hopping mad that her scheme didn't work, and that she got herself kicked out

of the list permanently. Her responses were classic bully playing the victim

act.

 

From: "list mod 1"

To: "list mod 2"

Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 11:52 PM

Subject: Re: More Jody, Hopefully The Last Of Her

 

So now, if she sends you any more emails, you report her to her ISP. I

think it would be fun if you send the entire exchange to her ISP. Haha!

 

Sorry I wasn't around more to support you in this, I know how stressful

these kind of brats can be! You handled it excellently, better than I

ever would have! Thanks! :)

 

From: "list mod 2"

To: "list mod 1"

Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 12:42 AM

Subject: Re: More Jody, Hopefully The Last Of Her

 

Wow, thanks for the compliment!

 

And that's a great idea! Her addy is a yahoo, but if I knew how to read

email headers better, I'd be able to determine what her actual isp is. She

does need to be yanked off the net until she can learn to show some

consideration for other people.

 

From: Jody dragonpetite@yahoo.com

To: list mod 2

Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 4:25 PM

Subject: Re: Very sad panda :(

 

I thought you were going to "delete" my "garbage" and not read it - yet here I have a reply from you? Hypocrite. Liar. Drama Queen.

 

By the way, I didn't screw ANYTHING up. That's where you've gone mental - you seem to cling to the belief that I wasn't going to leave your list once you replied in such a stupid and infantile manner to my boyfriend. And now you're even more of a hypocrite to say bye bye and then reply, yet again, to an email from me. Practice what you preach, flamer. Oh sorry .. you can't; I forgot. It's that pesky holier-than-thou attitude you're sporting. See, you're still presupposing that I care about you or being on your list, and that's why I'm sitting here laughing at you. Is it that you can't bear to admit that someone, especially an enfp, doesn't want to be on your list or in your company? Do you want to know WHY people find pleasure in making you cry? Take a look in the mirror. Your self-righteous, hypocritical drivel and that superior smirk on your face are the reasons why. Oh, but we're not laughing because we're too small minded to understand you. No, we're laughing because you really think you're superior. Just as an fyi, someone who was actually superior wouldn't need to stoop to the levels you've gone to just to "protect" your list. You've proven that you're just a lunatic and embody the worst stereotypes that enfps have against them.

 

God, you're pathetic. Go ahead, reply some more. Be even more of a hypocrite than you already are. How can you stand to look yourself in the mirror every morning? How can you stand to show your face with the ugliness lurking just below the surface? Do your list members know what a psychotic mod they have? That they are on a list that purports to support the wonderful things enfps are while their list mod embodies the very worst things?

 

Liar. Hypocrite. Demented lunatic.

 

• * *

 

-Wow, she sure called herself out, didn't she? Yes, Jody is every one of those three, in spades, and a monumental brat! Roflol! How cute, and actually funny, because she is so desperate!

 

Let's see:

 

"Liar" - well, she has the dexterity to type bratmail, so that probably means she's able to feed herself, which makes hers and her bf's idea of a joke a huge lie.

 

"Hypocrite" - she whines like mad, calling me "derogatory" among other things when her idea to down the enfp personality type was the most derogatory I've ever seen on the subject, and then she throws a huge hissy-fit, using the "it was a joke, you don't have a sense of humor" straight from the Troller's Manual 101. She supposedly expected to be "understood" on the list, but makes zero effort at attempting to understand let alone show any consideration for the next person. I'd call that just a bit hypocritical.

 

"Demented lunatic" - ROTFLMHO! Er, uhm, can we say "projection"? I'm sure she is! Perhaps her bf really wasn't lying about her going crazy after all! What a basket case, what a loose cannon, the girl has fallen apart, completely whacked right out of her gourd, showing serious indications of coming more and more unglued with every piece of garbage she sends! And there's something to be said for people who have the biggest problems, also being in the most serious denial about them.

 

"Pathetic" - a gross understatement when applied to her!

 

Maybe she'll eventually get sick of receiving this message every time she sends me any more bratty babble:

 

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You are receiving this automated response because this email program has detected a problem email sent by you.

 

Sender: dragonpetite@yahoo.com

Email type: bratmail

Content type: drivel

 

To remedy this problem, stop sending mail.

 

And to prove she's a liar that says one thing on one list, and something else on another or else she's ditched her husband and took up with another guy by the time she tried to contaminate the enfp list:

 

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/anosmia

 

anosmia · Mailing list and resources for people lacking the sense of smell. This list replaces the former Anosmia Resource Center.

 

Re: I can't believe it Topic List < Prev Topic | Next Topic >

 

Re: Re: anosmia I can't believe it

 

I had a question, because my husband and I are planning on starting our family

in the next year or so... how do you know when the diapers are dirty? Are there

any tricks, color change diapers, etc. that help? I'm just afraid that my

children are going to be dirty and I won't know about it until someone says

"PHEW! YOUR KID STINKS!!!" and of course.. not that I can do anything about my

lack of smell, but it bothers me to no end, like I am a failure. Help! Jody

 

#8008 of 17526

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Little Dragon

dragonpetite

 

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The thought of some poor child getting raised by her is horrifying!

 

A little info on location of email senders from an email tracing site:

 

Email sender location back-tracer

 

Yod:

 

1 69.147.64.129 NORTH AMERICA UNITED STATES DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA WASHINGTON EST

2 216.252.122.219 NORTH AMERICA UNITED STATES CALIFORNIA SUNNYVALE PST

3 66.218.69.3 NORTH AMERICA UNITED STATES CALIFORNIA SANTA CLARA PST

4 66.218.67.98 NORTH AMERICA UNITED STATES CALIFORNIA SANTA CLARA PST

5 66.218.67.35 NORTH AMERICA UNITED STATES CALIFORNIA SANTA CLARA PST

6 209.191.85.2 NORTH AMERICA UNITED STATES TEXAS DALLAS CST

7 15.251.201.71 SOUTH AMERICA BRAZIL SAO PAULO SAO PAULO GMT-3

8 209.191.85.2 NORTH AMERICA UNITED STATES TEXAS DALLAS CST

Email sender location back-tracer

 

Jody:

1 66.218.67.59 NORTH AMERICA UNITED STATES CALIFORNIA SANTA CLARA PST

2 66.218.69.3 NORTH AMERICA UNITED STATES CALIFORNIA SANTA CLARA PST

3 66.218.67.103 NORTH AMERICA UNITED STATES CALIFORNIA SANTA CLARA PST

4 66.218.66.166 NORTH AMERICA UNITED STATES CALIFORNIA SANTA CLARA PST

5 69.147.75.82 NORTH AMERICA UNITED STATES DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA WASHINGTON EST

6 24.23.46.112 NORTH AMERICA UNITED STATES CALIFORNIA SAN FRANCISCO PST

7 69.147.75.82 NORTH AMERICA UNITED STATES DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA WASHINGTON EST

The last step shows the origin of the email.

 

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Interesting.

 

From: "Groups Notification"

To: list-owner

Subject: APPROVE -- enf_predilect wants to join list

Date: April 29, 2007 12:47 PM

 

Hello,

 

The following person would like to join the group:

Email address: enf_predilect surfinbc@hotmail.com

 

Comment from user:

Hey, looking for similar types...

 

From: J S" To: "list Moderator"

Subject: RE: File - ENFP list - Please reply to join the list

Date: April 29, 2007 1:13 PM

 

 

From: "J S" surfinbc@hotmail.com

To: "list Moderator"

Subject: RE: File - list - Please reply to join the list

Date: May 1, 2007 3:48 AM

 

You denied me into your little group? Why do you waste people's time filling outyour little questionnaire to then deny admittance? Please get a life.

 

From: "Indy"

To: "J S" surfinbc@hotmail.com

Subject: Re: File - list - Please reply to join the list

Date: May 1, 2007 10:53 AM

 

J S @ ImMadCuzIDidntGetMyOwnWay wrote:

 

"You denied me into your little group?"

 

-Actually, we denied your sorry little trolling butt from our group. Yes, that means you have been denied, in case you're not sure!

 

"Why do you waste people's time filling outyour little questionnaire to then deny admittance?"

 

-Are you an absolute net n00b or just some typical troll with a really fragile ego? That's how some lists are run, dude, get used to it... And you wasted your own time, nobody forced you to subscribe. No one's fault but your own that your answers didn't cut the mustard. Deal with it.

 

 

-Awww, poor baby, did da big bad list mods hurt your poor little feelings? Grab a bandaid, you'll live! And BTW, it would be a great idea if you took your own advice. Thanks for the laughable reply to the list rejection. It wasn't necessary, and you've just wasted yet more of your ever so valuable time, only to get laughed at and put into the brat files.

 

-What was wrong with your submission? Let me count the ways:

 

"I found it it the net. I did a personality test and it spit out this odd four lettered code."

 

-And you were expecting something else?

 

"Since then (3 days ago)I've been reading as much as I can on MBTI

 

-if you had read just a little about it before hand, these "four lettered codes" might not seem quite so "odd".

 

"and I'm quite astounded to be quite honest."

 

-That's all it takes to "astound" you? Apart from getting quite denied off the list for quite silly and quite flippant comments that quite break list rules and quite fail to impress as trying to be quite witty, funny or cute?

 

"Haha, does this actually pertain to an ENFP?"

 

-No, it's actually just a random question. Yknow, sometimes questionaires do have those...

 

"If so I guess I'm even more of a freak."

 

-So you think like or dislike of chocolate determines whether or not you're a freak or an ENFP, and you are astounded at getting your sorry membership denied. That's flippant crap and against the list rules. No putting ENFPs or anybody down for whatever personality or preferences they have, and you broke that rule big time with that stupid "freak" crack. You should've known better, that rule is right on the front page but you didn't listen. And don't give me that "It was a joke, you must not have a sense of humor" trollish whine. That's what all cretins say when they've misbehaved and get flack for it.

 

"I don't care about sweet foods, I do like beer and pizza though ;)"

 

-If that was all you'd said, it would've been an acceptable reply to that particular question.

 

"This is the best question yet."

 

-It's just a question and rating it as "best" "worst" etc is lame and not going to get you anywhere trying to impress the list mods.

 

"I don't have a lot of paper books but I have a TON of ebooks. This informationage is a blessing and a curse. I have so many "projects" on the go it's not even funny. I'm teaching myself twonew languages, guitar, psychology, a myriad of other subjects, and anything new that catches my eye. I hope one day I finish something ;)

 

-Ugh, that made my monitor bleed. You might want to brush up on how to write in English, and whatever you might've learned in psych you won't get a chance to practice on this list, we won't be your case study. Try spacing between new words and punctuation once in a while. And it's 'information' not 'informationage'

 

-Buh-bye...

(Blacklisted)